Whats News: A Serious Look at the Themes of Resistance in Andor and Thunderbolts

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:01:36

This is systematic geekology. We are the priest of the geeks, and we are here with another what's news episode where we discuss all the latest things in the geek universe.

I am one of your hosts, Kevin Schaefer, joined with two of my favorite geeks here, Will Rose and Evan Garcia. Will, how are you today, man?

Will Rose: 00:01:56

I'm so good. There's so much to geek out on. And I have two of my favorite hosts that actually names Ryan, Evan, and Kevin. I'm here for it.

I'm here to geek out with Evan and Kevin.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:02:07

It's really funny because I have a friend from church named Evan, and we do the same thing too. It's like, but. Yeah, but, Evan, how are you today?

Evan Garcia: 00:02:16

I'm doing great, guys. I'm glad to be here with you guys.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:02:20

I know we're not. We're not recording on May 4th. We just had May 4th yesterday. But yes, it's Revenge of the Fifth. Exactly. It's a. Every day is Star wars day. But.

But will I have to ask, what was it preaching on? Because we also met. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. That was amazing.

Evan Garcia: 00:02:41

Yeah, it was. It was so good.

So, like, when I saw that May 4 was falling on a Sunday, I definitely got my team together months ago and said that y' all know how big of a geek I am. You know how much I love Star Wars. It's fallen on Sunday. We got to do something. And I still wanted to be about church. I wanted to be about Jesus.

I want to go too over the top. I didn't want to be cringy. I didn't want to be like, people are like, what is this guy doing? So. So I think there's a good balance.

There's a bal of the Force. There's a balance of, like, this is still church. That feels like church. It's the normal stuff that we normally do every Sunday.

But you guys know I've been Star wars geeks. You're going to hear, like, language and themes and Easter eggs throughout the entire service. So our litany was awesome.

We started off, may the Force be with you. And everybody said, also with you.

My children's sermon was around the Millennium Falcon and how, you know, little things make a difference, like Yoda and R2D2 against a huge space station that's the size of a moon. And my sermon, I gave some shout outs to assist my ecology on in my sermon. So who knows? Might get a few extra clicks out there. But.

But yeah, I think everybody had a lot of fun. And even at the post, the postlude. As people were walking out, we did the Cantina Band.

We had a saxophonist and our thing did the Cantina Band on the way out. So everybody faces were lit up and a great day. It was a great day. Super fun.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:03:56

Well, well, you've met my pastor friend Wes who we saw Phantom Menace together last year. I got to bring him on this show actually because he would be great for this.

But like our senior pastor knew like and that he had been also anticipating this day for years. So she just let him preach yesterday and he said at the beginning, okay, I apologize in advance but.

But it was a perfect message though and it was very relevant. But I, yeah, I thought, yeah, I'm.

Evan Garcia: 00:04:19

Very proud of my message and tying it together on the themes with the assigned reading gospel text for Easter week three with the third week of Easter, third Sunday of Easter and it flowed in good.

And even in the Book of Acts, even in the Book of Acts that day, the assigned readings for the lectionary, we follow the revised Common Lectionary, which is like liturgical like assign readings for the year on yesterday. Yesterday the Book of Acts they called. They're like, it's that part next where they say these people who follow the way. So come on.

We could not say this is the way. Yeah. It set up great. So yeah. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Star Wars Jesus, you did it, man.

Evan Garcia: 00:05:01

Who would have thought that the childhood will would say that he would grow up And I know, I know.

Evan Garcia: 00:05:11

Some people ask, they were like, you know when you brought out your Millennium Falcon that you got when you were like seven years old, would you have thought as a seven year old one day you would use it as a prop in a children's message. But God did.

Evan Garcia: 00:05:22

Yeah. So cool.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:05:24

It's so relevant and well and speaking of Star wars, we are certainly going to be discussing a certain Star wars series that's in the middle of its second and final season. Right now we are going to be talking andor we'll also be talking thunderbolts today.

So there's plenty in the geek sphere, a lot of big topics right now. But before we get to that, let's go ahead and get to our lightning round to share what else we're geeking out on.

So Evan, you want to start what are some quick beats you want to hit on?

Evan Garcia: 00:05:51

Sure. There's a few things I've been that I've been squeezing in here and there is the righteous gemstones that show is.

That shows completely firing on all cylinders. It's great details of the Underworld that came out yesterday for Watch that Through.

And I've had this, a podcast that doesn't drop too many episodes, but when they do, they're like, so thick and, like, heavy. And I've been milking it for like a week now, so. Yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:06:25

What's the name of that podcast?

Evan Garcia: 00:06:27

The Revel Podcast.

Evan Garcia: 00:06:29

Okay.

Evan Garcia: 00:06:30

They are friends of. Of Trip Fuller and stuff like that, too.

Evan Garcia: 00:06:35

Nice. The Revel.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:06:36

Oh, right on.

Evan Garcia: 00:06:37

Nice. Yeah, I might. I might get on. On Pentecost Sunday. Evan. I might get tripped to preach at Holy Trinity because he's down the roof. Hey, when I do that.

Yeah. I think all three of us share a love of righteous gemstones. And we've shared with the group out before that, you know, it's not for everybody. It is.

It's crude humor. It's, you know, if. If you hold. If you. You'll.

If you don't like crude sexual humor with lots of F bombs and you're probably going to clutch your pearls and. And it's not for you. But in terms of what they talk about religion and family and relationships, dude, it's so funny.

And I did not get a chance to watch the finale last night, so we're watching it tonight. So. So I can't wait.

Evan Garcia: 00:07:22

Kevin. Kevin.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:07:23

I also don't want it to end.

Evan Garcia: 00:07:24

Yes.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:07:25

Yeah. Yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:07:26

That clip that you sent me, that. That little meme. I mistakenly. I was not aware of my surroundings when I played it on my phone. And my son goes, what?

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:07:41

I should have put that as a caveat. Make sure your kids aren't in the room here. It was a Baby Billy line.

It wasn't like the most offensive guy, but I was just laughing hysterically at the context that it put it in. And I, yeah, I said, Evan and I have been exchanging memes on that, but yeah, I have to be careful about that, too.

When friends send me stuff with if it's wrong reels. Making sure my niece and nephews are not nearby because.

Evan Garcia: 00:08:05

Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty good at it, but today I failed. Oh, no.

Evan Garcia: 00:08:10

Love it.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:08:10

I apologize in advance. I hope you won't be remembering and repeating that one. But. Yeah, but that. That's pretty great, though. But. Yeah, but amazing show. I know.

I don't want it to end. And I kind of want spin offs for Baby Billy. And also young gemstones was by fans, too. That would be so good.

Evan Garcia: 00:08:29

Jesse's. Jesse's version, he's so.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:08:32

Oh, my gosh, he captures himself. They could not have cast that better as a young Danny McBride. Yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:08:39

It's great.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:08:40

But Will I know you have a bunch.

Evan Garcia: 00:08:41

Yeah, I'm rattling off. I'm gonna rattle it off. Here we go.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:08:43

All right.

Evan Garcia: 00:08:44

Here we go. All right. So free coming free. Comic book day is always the first Saturday in a super fun. Grabbed a lot of stuff.

Star wars day was fun and yeah, the new content and Star wars animation put some stuff out there. Tales of the underworld and man that animation is so beautiful. Like every time I'm like I want some old.

Every time I start feeling like I want some old school 2D or anime styled Star wars cartoon, whenever they, they put that back up there, I'm like this is gorgeous animation and it's so good. So loving that I just saw Sinners last night and that movie was absolutely incredible. I heard you guys talk about it on another what's new.

I love the way that you non spoiler but still talked about it. You're the way that you didn't spoil it but yet you lure people to go see it and talk about some of the themes.

My daughter saw it and say well I want to see it again. Come on.

And yeah, that needs to be a whole episode on its own spoiler because I think when it talks about religion, when it talks about magic, mysticism, spirituality along with like systemic racism, but also like music and transcendence as we were talking about earlier before that, it's just absolutely incredible with fun horror tropes and, and vampire tropes. Like it's, it's, it's all there and there's a particular scene in there that I, I can't stop thinking about. It's.

Evan Garcia: 00:10:02

It's so good.

Evan Garcia: 00:10:04

And then yeah, we've been watching Last of Us as, as well. We're. We're caught up. We saw the episode last night and I think it's, it's really well done.

I don't know if it's gonna have a third season or if it's going to come after the two. See, there's three episodes left as in terms of recording in time of recording this. But I, I've had a lot of fun with this.

I think the relationships and also with the zombie clicker horror element have been on point and every. And I. Here you go.

I left Sinners last night, went home to watch Last of Us and I was like, you know, Last of Us is probably going to be not as good because I just saw an incredible movie so it's probably going to be like. But no, after watching last night's episodes like this is just as good. Drama and horror as. As a movie I just watched. So yeah, I high grade for me.

Great. Are you caught up, Kevin?

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:10:58

I am so last of us. I definitely want to do an episode on because I did not play the game.

I've been watching the show from the beginning and have loved it consistently and I think it's just a great blend of horror drama. Every episode knows how to pack a punch emotionally and not in a forced way. The acting is brilliant, the writing is great.

So you know, and even with that big shocker at the beginning of this season or two episodes in, I don't think the show has lost its footing at all. It's done a great job transitioning to a different era and a different setting now. And. And also, I mean Jeffrey Wright. Yeah.

Was in this week's episode. I mean that's just like a gift. I mean I think he's one of the best actors living and so that is incredible. But no, it's a fantastic show.

That's definitely one of the big things I'm geeking out on.

Evan Garcia: 00:11:51

And that whole kind of post apocalypse. I know it's lightning around but in terms of post apocalyptic genre, I'm a fan of that. But if you.

The questions that lift up of like what would you do in that situation or how you would survive, who you would align with, what is your priorities. They're starting to lift up like there's some, some religion that's starting to come up in this as well.

So you think of like something that disastrous religion still survives. People are still longing for. For meaning and hope and I, I think, I think it's done really well while still focusing on. On the main characters in a.

In a good job. So.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:12:24

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:12:25

Do they make a, do they make a third like a third season of the video game?

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:12:29

So no. I was, I was talking with a big gamer friend about this and they say they have not made a third and even the second one originally the.

The game was conceived as a one game grimace and then.

And the creator Neil Druckmann, who's also a co creator and producer on the show said that he was only going to make a second game if he had a good story in mind. And so it went by years without and they've talked about.

But there has not been any concrete plans or release dates or anything like that for a third game which I don't know how that impacts the show either. You know. And, and I do think it's a matter of like. And I think the creators have this mindset of Quality over quantity.

So I think they're only going to make more if they feel compelled to. So I don't know what the status of the that is, but. But yeah, there's only two games.

Evan Garcia: 00:13:19

Gotcha. Cool.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:13:20

But yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:13:21

All right, Kevin, what are you looking at? On.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:13:23

Yep. So last of us. Prices. Gemstones. Absolutely. Other things. Evan, I've started Light and Magic, which is excellent. Highly recommend that if you're.

If you like us and you like the really nerdy background stuff.

In this case, it's about the visual effects company that has been instrumental not just for Star wars, but for so many franchises and blockbusters over decades of film history. So I love that series. And then also the How I Met your Mother Rewatch podcast. I know that that's like a big trend with podcasts.

There is like a rewatch podcast for everything. Now, finally, How I Met yout Mother. Want us out? It's hosted by Josh Ratner, who played Ted, and then Craig Thomas, the co creator.

And it's called how we made your Mother, but which I like. Which was. I mean, I laughed when they came up with that title. I was like, that's pretty good. Yeah, good effect there.

But yeah, I mean, it's one of the. Like, there are a lot of Rewatch podcasts out there, and I can't keep up with all of them. But that.

Because I jumped on this one at the beginning, it's now become like, I listen to that every Monday, and it's a nice way to start the week.

Evan Garcia: 00:14:31

I wonder if Joshua knows about that one. He's a big How I Met yout Mother?

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:14:34

I would say if he has it, he would really love it.

Evan Garcia: 00:14:37

Oh, boy.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:14:37

Yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:14:38

Yeah.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:14:38

So cool. But, yeah, awesome. Well, I know, I admit, plenty more I'm geeking out on, but I know we got to get to our main topics here, so. So let us start.

Evan Garcia: 00:14:48

Yeah, y' all. We're gonna talk about Andor Season 2 so far, and there will be spoilers. We wanted to say that, like, we.

We try to, you know, make sure that we don't spoil your fun. So whether it's Andor or thunderbolts, there will be spoilers. Pause, go watch, catch up, and then come back later.

But yeah, we're gonna talk about some of the themes and what we're liking about this. A bunch of Star wars geeks talking About Andor Season 2. Yeah, run with it, Kevin. What do you want to talk about? Here we go.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:15:13

All right. So, yeah, I mean, I followed the show from the beginning.

I mean, I think it is like, I mean, everyone has said this in terms of how mature it is, the series, how different it is from the escapist and fantasy aspects of Star wars that we're so familiar with. This is a very grounded and gritty political spy thriller. And I. So season one, I did a rewatch of before starting this one.

And I think what I like most about season one is it really does a great job showing Cassian's arc going from an everyman for himself mentality to fully joining the resistance by the end. And we've seen that before, you know, with characters like Han Solo and, you know, plenty of others. But they give it so much more depth here.

And so when you see that culminated with the political aspects and the spy thriller, it just makes for a brilliant season of television. And it has, I mean, some of the best monologues too. And start. I mean, you have Kino Loy's by any circus. Like, that's just one of the best moments.

Like, not just in Star wars, but I would say in just science fiction history. It's incredible. And then Stellan Skarsgard Luthen at the end of season. So there.

I mean, I really loved a rewatch of season one even more than the first time because there's so much to absorb with it. And I just picked up on more on a rewatch. So season two, I'm still, I mean, no doubt about it that it is still one of the most mature.

Just, you know, I. I don't like really the word elevated. I feel like that's kind of like cliche, like you said. But.

But I mean, it's so different from what you're used to with Star Wars.

It is, you know, not afraid to tackle bold subjects and to really look at the impact of fascism and not making the Empire cartoonish characters, but real horrific villains.

And to see also what people in this galaxy and in this universe are doing day to day and what middle class looks like and what, you know, ultimate repast looks like. So my initial thoughts on season two so far, I.

The only reason I'm not as engaged as season one is, again, that arc with Cassian was so fascinating and I feel like he is not. I mean, I mean, Diego Lynn is great and the, you know, I still love the character. I don't feel like he has as much to do, at least.

So far in these first six episodes, the focus has been more on some of the bigger plot elements and on a lot of the supporting actors.

So, for instance, the wedding arc in the first few Episodes involving Mon Mothma's daughter, which also, I mean, I think the best thing about that is honestly the production design and the costumes are incredible. So all the attention to detail in the show is just a masterclass in storytelling.

But, yeah, I would just say for me, it's still some brilliant writing, brilliant storytelling. I just was a little more engaged in season one, at least at this point. I do think it's going to get these.

The second half could be all the more bombastic because it's leading up to. Directly to Rogue One. And I think we're going to see really the fallouts of the Gorman massacre and how that impacts the formation of the rebellion.

But yeah, it just. It is a little slower pacing.

But it's also all the elements of season one that made it great are still present in terms of the political intrigue, the characters. Yeah, those are the minutes we'll talk about.

Evan Garcia: 00:18:43

Sorry, Kev, do you think that some of that is not a gaze? And do you think that part of the reason is the way they're rolling it out?

Because season two, they have four nights, four Tuesdays, where they have three episodes. Tuesday. And each three episode arcs are a whole year leading up to Rogue One. So I was like, oh, cool. I'm gonna love this aspect of, of.

Of watching a Star wars movie a night, a whole year that leads up to it. But those arcs aren't moving as fast paced or along as I would hope.

So I'm like, oh, so it's a late night on Tuesday trying to watch all of them so that I don't have any spoilers on Wednesday. So it's a big tall task to do that. But then I wanted to move forward a little bit. But this is kind of how they're rolling it out. They're trying to.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:19:33

So I agree with that too, because it's not like they're 20 minute episodes. Like, these are like full hour long. And if you're dropping like three hours at a time, that's a lot to absorb.

You know, I mean, and I kind of would prefer an episode at a time to really dissect it. I get that. Because, I mean, and you bring up the point too, about there's a lot of time this season covers even more so than the first.

I know there's. There's a lot of, you know, time that those 12 episodes in season one covers.

But this one, like you said, it's a year at a time, which I thought was really fascinating, but it's also. It is a lot. And I think if it was. I don't, I still don't think it's paced like a movie. Like it's more right. Like pacing is slower than right.

And so I think if it were an episode at a time, I would have preferred that. Absolutely.

Evan Garcia: 00:20:18

Yeah. How about you, Evan?

Evan Garcia: 00:20:19

But no, I'm digging it. The. I like having three episodes a week, but it's just so hard to consume. It's is almost two hours. So it's like the, the first week we, we.

Because my, Me, Me and my wife are watching, we could not, we could not to get through the first episode because we were so tired we would keep falling asleep on each other. So it was just like, oh man, I gotta finish before next week because, because of the, because of the spoilers.

But no, but I'm really, I'm really digging the adultness of it.

Evan Garcia: 00:21:05

The.

Evan Garcia: 00:21:06

Yeah, the, the, the fresh take of this part of the galaxy and what it feels like to be under fascism. And, and what does the fascism mean? And to just the normal people and to the people that are trying to fight it too. But, but that first.

I like the first group. The, the. The first group of episodes. Wow. Wow. Like.

Evan Garcia: 00:21:41

Mm.

Evan Garcia: 00:21:42

I was less speechless. I was like, holy cow. Because they had such a range with. We. We are doing spoilers, right?

Evan Garcia: 00:21:51

Yep, yep.

Evan Garcia: 00:21:52

Yeah. Yeah. So they had I think the funniest moment in Call of Star Wars. I know where you go was, was, was. Was Cyril and his mom with Deidre. Or Deidre.

Oh my goodness. And the fact that he couldn't take it and he just goes. And he goes and lays on the bed like I can't believe. Oh my gosh.

Evan Garcia: 00:22:16

Oh, the memes. That's why you gotta finish it. You never know come across and you're.

Evan Garcia: 00:22:21

Like all that meme. I'm like, oh man, I wish I.

Evan Garcia: 00:22:23

Didn'T see this lord of memes. You know that Evan, the lord of memes is gonna put something out there on it. But yeah, I'm with you. That, that was, was amazing.

Like for me, I was telling people, I was like, yeah, we did have kind of a little bit of a, like a little bit of a whiplash because you had skeleton crew which was like so kid oriented, a little bit more swashbuckling and in space and lots of action and going from planet to planet and hopping all over the place. And then you go to andor. And it's, it's the small things. It's the small details on scenes longer they hang on conversations longer.

And I was telling somebody like describing it that these are the small relationships and the small choices and the small conversations that lead to the big things.

So these are the little, tiny details, your small choices that you make today are going to make a difference in your relationships and in your vocations and your jobs and what you do for the long run.

So here in the Star wars, you have the big star battles, you have the movies that have the million ships flying each other and lasers going everywhere. And look, my Avatar is, is Luke Skywalker with lightsaber. I love Space wizard so much.

I want the mysticism, I want lightsaber duels, I want all that in my Star Wars. But this is, this show is dissecting the small decisions that are made that eventually lead to the big things and how important they are.

By small, I don't mean the unimportant. I mean, I mean like, they're the small details that eventually link to the big stuff. So that I think that's what this show does and does well.

And so some of the fan base is having a hard time with some of the adult themes, whether they use the R word, the rape word or, or they have same sex kiss or kind of things. And. But the relationship.

So that the tension that builds to that, I think makes a difference because you then understand why they're part of this rebellion, why the big war happens in the first place.

And so, yeah, you have these microaggressions in your daily lives or in the political nature of local government, you're eventually going to have a breaking point. And that's what's going on in this episode or the show that I love.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:25:13

And Evan, I'm glad you brought up Cyril earlier because that was like with the first six episodes.

I know I said Cassian, like I always say, he sidelined here, but a lot of the emphasis has been more on some of the supporting characters and some of the bigger storylines and stuff. And so it's been a little different.

But I've been really interested in Cyril, who, you know, you look at like the first few episodes of season one and you're like, okay, this guy's a dork and just a little imperial snob. Like, surely he's not going to be that important.

He's just like, oh, he has a little hissy fit and he is desperate to capture Cassian and try to, you know, up his career and everything. But he's actually become one of the most interesting characters in the show in terms of. Here's the guy who is this ISB Imperial officer.

But you know, not, you know, a grandma for what we typically see with the imperial officers in the movies, like, this big, you know, he's probably not.

Evan Garcia: 00:26:06

Getting a meeting with Palpatine. He's probably not gonna get.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:26:09

Exactly. Yes. And so. But here's a guy who. He is just obsessed with trying to make something of himself, and his mom doesn't even think that much of him.

And, you know, it's, like, criticized him for his life choices, and so I think it's very possible, and it's setting it up to where he may, you know, leave the Empire and he might, you know, be join the resistance by the end, which would be really interesting if they did. You know, I can't.

I can't guarantee that, but I have been really invested in his arc, and that's a character who, when he was introduced, like I said, I thought would just be more memeable and would be really forgettable.

I really, like, that's the great thing about the writing of the show, is how they make you care about and be invested in characters that don't seem important at first and. And can do that with both the heroes and the villains, right?

Evan Garcia: 00:26:57

That, that. That they are putting emphasis on the Empire and on the rebels. Like, we. We are seeing the.

The small choices that each side takes, and that is going to escalate. Escalate. Escalated. So he just can't anymore. And. And then we all know how it's gonna go.

But it's cool to see, like you said, Will, just all those little steps with the weirdness of. Of Saw Gerrera and that gas stuff, like, what are you doing, bro?

Evan Garcia: 00:27:31

Deserves an Emmy for that speech. There's a couple in here that are like, yes, could get Emmys. Like, I. I mean, I. And I was like, this guy's a thug. I don't like him. What is he doing?

Why is he part of the rebellion? And then you turn and hear his story and what he does.

You're like, oh, now I understand the trauma he's gone through and why he's making these choices. I, I just analogous to our world and what's going on. And I, I, yeah, I. I love it. What. What would you say is like, your kind of favorite?

I do love the opening scenes. I'm stealing that. That tie. Fight the learning curve about it.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:28:06

I would say. See, that's something they haven't shown in Star wars before. It's like, everyone is like.

And like, I love that they showed someone who is all, you know, we've already seen do amazing things. We Know he's a fighter and a spy and all this stuff, but he cannot fly to save his life. And I love that they were able to show that. Yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:28:24

Do you guys. And, and I love that they landed on Yavin. You see this kind of ragtag, A bunch of group of rebels who don't.

Who are in fighting frustrated me so much. Yes. And yet they're on. They're on Yavin. So I, you know, at some point they gotta loop back around like I.

The fledgling rebellion and what leads up to eventually the stealing of the Death Star plans and putting in an R2 unit and then trying to blow that thing up. I think I love the way, the way this is going. And we have two more, two more blocks of story arcs before we get. And I really.

And I think the guy who plays Enter. What's his name? I'm. Yeah, he's. He said in interviews about how like you're.

It's gonna make you see Rogue One in a different way and it will lead up, like, right up to it. So I really like Rogue One. When I said, like you ended and go right into a new hope. I really hope you can do this.

And I'm go right into Rogue One and watch it and see what it looks like. And I think fans will say that Rogue One is up there in terms of what Disney has created, one of the top ones.

And so hopefully this will lead right into it, help us to see in a different, better light or even better.

Evan Garcia: 00:29:31

This is a trilogy, right? A Yandor trilogy with, with a season one and two and with. And with Rogue One.

Evan Garcia: 00:29:40

Yeah, Yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:29:40

I would say that's the, that's the trilogy. Trilogy. Yeah, that's right.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:29:44

And I'll be really interested in seeing what Tony Gilroy does after this because he's had a fascinating career and as someone who he was brought in as not a big Star wars fan, and that's why I, I. It is amazing how much creative freedom they gave him.

And I know, I mean, he was instrumental in making Rogue One what it was because he did significant rewrites and reshoots on that movie. And that's probably why he was brought in to do this show.

But you know, still with all of the, you know, their myriad creative overhauls and conflicts, you know, throughout the Star wars franchise, particularly in the Disney era, and for them to just give a creator like this whole. Does really bold moves that are unlike anything we've seen in Star wars before you know it. To be able to make the show and stick true, stay true.

To his vision. Yeah, I think is incredible.

So I'll be really interested in seeing what he does next because before this he did like the movie Michael Clayton years ago. He did some of the Bourne films.

So he has, you know, like I'll be interested if he does something totally original or if he maybe tackles another franchise. I'd be really fascinated to see what he does.

Evan Garcia: 00:30:52

His brother was on Rebels, wasn't he? He was a writer.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:30:57

I think it's done a lot too. Dan Giller was like a writer on the, the Superman movie. That never happened with that lives with, with the. Nick Cage. He was a writer on that.

Like Kevin Smith wrote the first draft and then Gilroy. I know way too much about that movie. But yeah, he's, he's. Dan Gilroy has had a fascinating career too.

Evan Garcia: 00:31:17

Yeah, I love that. And you know, I think you know this show also along with a few other things in terms with COVID and writing strikes, writer strikes had.

We're throwing some curveballs. I'm looking forward.

We just saw Star Wars Celebration roll out a bunch of movies and, and shows and cartoons are going to roll out and so I'm interested without really too hopefully not too many curveballs unless they throw tariffs on movie studios or whatever where hopeful they'll be able to kind of tell their story. And I think it'd be interesting seeing post andor and the next stage how what effect that'll have on. On the.

The execs and the creatives at Star wars and Lucasfilm will be able to see what successful and what people gravitate toward and hopefully lean into those things. So I'm, I'm curious like will they.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:32:08

Make room for more yeah. Mature oriented Star wars stories like this? Yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:32:14

Yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:32:15

I haven't seen too much, too much whining from the fan base like they did with Acolyte. So I think we're safe.

Evan Garcia: 00:32:25

Okay, good. It's always Star wars fans always are cool. Well, yeah. And you know, let us know folks in the comments or in the DMs.

What, what's your favorite moments? What's your favorite characters? What are you liking about the show? What do you hope they do more?

We're halfway through and or season two as of recording and so I'm curious to how they're gonna land that TIE fighter hopefully smoothly better than they did in Episode one. There you go.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:32:55

Good find there.

Evan Garcia: 00:32:55

All right. All right. Are we ready to move on to. To. To some thunderbolts. Thunderbolts with an asterisk and let's just Say I.

What I like is that we have Evan there with an asterisk. I don't know what that means. Is he the new Garcia? I don't. Yeah, well, we'll see.

Evan Garcia: 00:35:02

I gotta get that now.

Evan Garcia: 00:35:03

Yeah, that's good. But yeah, we'll talk about what the Ashrax means in a minute. But we've all seen this movie and it's doing well. It's tracking well.

People are saying that this is, you know, one of the best Marvel movies they've seen in a while that, you know, kind of. They're wrapping up this phase in. In a good way and. And lead into another. So. So initial reactions here around the horn. Kevin, you saw Opening Night.

What were your thoughts?

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:35:33

I had a blast with this movie. And I think a big thing, not just like the movie itself, but this one works as a sequel to Black Widow and Falcon Winter Soldier more so Black Widow.

And so I will go like, I know a lot of people don't or think that movie is more and like mid level mcu. That is actually one of my favorite MCU movies. I think it's criminally underrated.

I don't deny that the MCU has been terribly messy the past few years and they lack an overall direction. But as far as just like. And I definitely agree that the Black Widow movie should have come out way before, you know, post endgame, which granted, I.

Kevin. That's a whole nother thing. Kevin Feige wanted to. There was. That was like Pearl Modder blocked that for a long time.

But anyway, so I like, it would have been cool if it had gotten to come out when Black Widow was still alive. Nonetheless, I think that that movie is a great spy thriller.

It has one of the most like just, you know, gutsy and defiant intro sequences in any Marvel movie with that the Smells Like Teen Spirit cover and just really showing the horrors of her and Yelena's origins that like, you know, is dark, but they actually are bold enough to really go into that. So I really love that movie. And, and because through thunderbolts, Yelena is really the heart and soul.

I mean, it is a great movie, but I think she carries the movie. And so I love this as a Black Widow sequel, but yeah, I absolutely had a blast with this one.

You know, I, I know leading up to it, we were thinking like, like, oh, is this just Marvel's answer to Suicide Squad, you know, in terms of a group of anti heroes thrown together and all that. But I actually, I would. I like there are definitely parallels to that, but I really like how this movie kind of has its own distinct feel.

It's, you know, like.

I think I read one review that really summed it up well as saying it's less like Suicide Squad and it's more a hangout session with these kind of quirky characters thrown together and they're literally thrown together in the first hour of the movie and trying to escape. Escape from a vault. So I loved all that. But yeah, I mean I think it was a perfect cast of like C listers.

You have Yelena, you have Red Guardian, Bucky, John Walker, Ghost. And then briefly the Taskmaster, which I did. Wanna know? Yeah. Spoiler alert here. Taskmaster is introduced and killed off right away.

I was a little disappointed there because I really I.

I did like what they did with her in Black Widow, making her the villain's daughter who had survived Natasha's initial assassination attempt years ago. So I thought there was more they could have done there. But it also made for kind of Funny Thing.

And then of course we get Bob, who is not Bob but Sentry and I Bell.

Although I do think like this was very intentional to name him Bob because Lewis Pullman played him and that was his character's name in Top Gun Maverick. So I think when to it comes. Because originally Steven Young was going to play this character and then had to drop out, do the scheduling. I know.

Yeah, I know. And can you imagine the invincible memes that would have done. Yes. So like I'm kind. I mean I love Steven Young, but I'm kind of glad this way.

And I thought Lewis Pullman was great here, but that there just would have been impossible to avoid the amount of memes and comparisons there. So I really like Lewis here. But yeah, I mean I love this rat cat group of characters.

I love the action, the, you know, having Valentina played by Julius Dreyfus be kind of the. The shady villainous Nick Fury in this era of MCU was great. I will say we'll get into it a little.

I'm not crazy about the post credit scene and I'll tell. I'll expand on that more in a little bit. But. But as far as this movie is a standalone, it worked great and I love this cast. It.

It did a really nice job of. Of action tropes. Feel good, funny, but not overdone humor.

And it also the third act here, doing the whole thing with like into the void of the century, I thought was really interesting. I mean I did not really know anything about the century from the comics. So I kind of went in fresh there.

And I really like how it did a different kind of third act instead of just a big, you know, shoot them up, bang them up fight sequence. I do love a good fight sequence. But, but, but I liked how this one was more psychological.

And I'm not gonna say it's like incredibly deep or anything or like a 24 level, but it's still, you know, it was an MCU movie that worked and it examined mental health.

Evan Garcia: 00:40:07

So yeah, my, my daughter, I took my daughter and, and wife. I, I dragged them to these movies and sometimes I really like it. They were really tired after a long Thursday, a long week.

And, and, and Hannah was like, I'm probably gonna fall asleep during this movie. I was like, you better not. She's like, I probably am. And, but she didn't. She held in there and, and at the end, after not seeing a lot of the.

She's seen Marvel movies but not the tv, Disney TV shows or the Black Widow movie, I was like, does this hold up? Did you, did you understand what's going on? She's like, yeah, it held up.

So I think the writing and not having to have so much going into it really, really worked. I will say like thunderbolts, you know, if you're interested. It was.

This is a: 1990

k is really cool. And then in: 2000

It is Bob in the comics. That's his name in the comics too. And it is someone who like does dealing with mental health with a void with dual personality, bipolar.

And so he doesn't know in his head what's real or not. Like whether he's dreaming up.

He really had a history with Avengers or is it just something that is in his head or kind of mental health, whether he's imagining or not. So they really play along with what is real, what's in his head. And so I, I thought what a great antagonist.

And not really a villain, but an antagonist that bring a team together. You really understand why this team pulls together. And then to them fight against it.

And not just like a lot of buildings crashing, but there were some buildings crashing. But, you know, it ended with a group hug. Ended with a hug. It ended.

They saved the day by saying, telling someone and reassuring them that they're not alone. And, and man, if that's not like something that, that I think, yeah, it's not the most deep, powerful thing you've ever heard of.

But again, it's the small things that matter. Reminding someone they're not alone that you're with them and you give them a hug. I think I thought it was great. Evan, who did you go see it with?

Were you guys impressed? Did you like this movie?

Evan Garcia: 00:42:32

Love the movie. We had very busy weekend with the kids, sports and stuff. And on Friday night I was like, I don't think I'm going to be able to.

I don't think I'm going to be able to squeeze in a screening because we're going to be so where you are going to be so busy. And look, not our local theater, but one of the theaters a little bit further away had a 11pm showing.

So I was like, all right, I'm just gonna go right now. I went at 11 o' clock and it was packed.

Evan Garcia: 00:43:07

Nice.

Evan Garcia: 00:43:09

Cool, cool. So it was a fun theater experience.

I too was going into this as like, as, as, as a person that doesn't have too much knowledge of the previous content that has come before. So I thought it was a, like the Marvel's version of Suicide Squad too. So.

Evan Garcia: 00:43:32

All right.

Evan Garcia: 00:43:34

It's only fair that they have their own moment too. So I was, but I was thoroughly surprised at how they made it their own. And like you said, it was how they ended was how they set up the whole thing.

It's. You are not alone.

Like they set up the whole, the whole theme of the main character feeling depression and that and feeling that despair of emptiness and how do you fill that? How do you fill the void and, and, and how do you tackle that and to tackle those themes in a Marvel film?

I was like, as a person that struggles with, with this stuff, like with a bipolar and I've had episodes of, of, of psychosis and I related to a moment in the post credit sequence where they wanted, where they wanted Bob to use his powers and. But he's like, I can't. That's that other guy. Yeah, because I had, I had the moment and I was like, that, that wasn't me. That was my brain breaking.

You know, it's like, wow, I hope you don't Listen to that. It's like, yeah, yeah, so. So I felt this on. On a level that I didn't think I was going to, and it made me. Kevin. It made me interact with.

With my friend that. That has recently gotten paralyzed that we spoke about.

And, yeah, he was very emotional about the tweet that I sent him and stuff like that because it. Because it. He used to. He. He was. He was.

He was starting to think of his previous life as, like, something so distant before his operation, but now he's like, he's starting to realize why he might have been paralyzed and see the value in the stories that he. That he is living now and the experiences that we've had together. So this brought together. This brought me together with him. So that was pretty cool.

Hopefully enough to put him on the show one day. So, yeah, I love that because he's a cool guy.

Evan Garcia: 00:46:03

That's good. That's good. That's good. Geekology.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:46:06

I love it.

Evan Garcia: 00:46:06

Yeah.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:46:08

And that's what I think I gravitate to most about ones like the Suicide Squad. Guardians of Galaxy is putting together these group of underdogs with, like, all these traumas.

And like, a lot of times they try to initially suppress their traumas with humor or with just kind of like a, you know, down, and then. And then they end up kind of like coming together. And I, Yeah, I just. I don't get tired of that. I think that. And this.

It handles it really well here, too, so.

Evan Garcia: 00:46:39

Yeah, I. I agree. And I. I think, you know, you. We had the. The snap. We had people turn into ashes. You were like, are they going to come back?

The gasp moments with that.

And I think I loved how they depicted the void and kind of voiding people out, you know, and when he saved a little girl and then all of a sudden she was voided out, My wife beside me just gasped like, oh, no. And I was like, grabbed you, man. You're like, oh, my gosh, He's. This is happening.

And so, yeah, I think it goes to deeper conversations around, like, what we void out in our lives or try to suppress or push down, and then it's going to come up. So what. What. What is going to release those things? What's going to help those things? The. Our shadow side.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:47:18

Our.

Evan Garcia: 00:47:19

Our. The. The side we put out in front of people that. That we want people to see, and then the stuff we don't want people to see.

And what can we be honest and authentic about and our. Our true selves? I think, yeah, it's a superhero movie. But those elements are there, and I think it's handled right.

I think, you know, that the mental health aspect that they've dealt with past post in game and those things, I think. I think whoever is consulting the mcu, I think they're getting it right. I think there's something there. It's not really, you know, it's my. My.

My daughter was like, yeah, you know, they ended with a hug. You could say this kind of cheesy, but at the end of the day, they're not wrong. You know, they're. They're not wrong. So.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:47:58

A hug and vulnerability go a long way.

Evan Garcia: 00:48:01

I love the whole. The whole Kierkegaard too, because.

Evan Garcia: 00:48:06

Yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:48:08

The way they quoted him and they emphasize that it is on us that we can step beyond the void. We can go reach out to others, and sometimes we just have to be reminded of that.

Evan Garcia: 00:48:27

Yeah. You guys have a favorite, favorite scene or character or moment in the movie that. That sticks out for you.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:48:34

It's kind of in the trailer, but I do, just from a visual standpoint, love that moment when the rest of the team is in the car on the. On the highway and Bucky stops out, comes in with the motorcycle and then stops him. And it's a really well executed action, very Terminator style.

And like, and I liked how they. What they did with Bucky here, how he's kind of the veteran. And I was. He had a great line too.

When they're going into the void and they're coming out and. And you know, they're all. They all have to go in through, like, the darkest, like, aspects of their past here.

And, you know, he says something like, oh, nothing happened there. I have a great path.

Evan Garcia: 00:49:13

Oh, man, that was great line.

Evan Garcia: 00:49:15

Yes.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:49:15

That was a good delivery. Like, I. I really like.

You know, I think Sebastian sand, like, really tuned into the kind of like, Kevin Costner Eastwood kind of like, lens of the group here as the. You know, he's been in this for a while, and these are kind of like some newcomers or some have only been in the MCU for a minute there. So I.

Yeah, I just really like the combination.

Evan Garcia: 00:49:38

I. So let me tell you my movie experience. Experience there.

There were moments in my theater and where the sound went out for like 30 seconds to a minute. And it was like. It was. We're like, what is going on? So we were running out, getting the manager. Go fix the sound. Fix the sound.

And when Bucky shows up and, like, on the motorcycle and that whole highway chase was no sound, and I was like, what is. I need to go back and see this movie now. I could know what was going on. Blah, blah, blah. And then my hand and I wear it. My daughter. I were like.

We started to, like, like Mystery Science. The Internet, which are like, oh, no, they're gonna get us. We're gonna feel.

Evan Garcia: 00:50:11

I was say.

Evan Garcia: 00:50:11

We were doing it out loud and people around us were laughing, and my wife was like, you got to stop. Like, no, I gotta make light of this. And we were. Mystery Science. The air of the movie with no sound.

But then it did it a couple of times, and then the movie, like, froze and they had to restart it. And then they, like, they. So we got to see. Then they fast forward it and then we got to see part of maybe like 30 minutes extra. Like the.

Before the scene where it froze. I was like, ah.

So it kind of killed the vibe a little bit, but it still kind of held up at the end when it was leading up to how they were saving the day and that thing.

And I will say one of my favorite scenes is when they are walking up the tower together with their legs, like, all working as a team, and then try to figure out, like, well, how are we gonna, like, get to this thing? I. I just love that scene. Their conversations, the character moments really was really a lot of fun. So I. I loved.

I loved that at the beginning because you see what. What pulls them together. The. What a team that bonds together and how you can. They didn't. They were really skeptical of each other.

But these experiences is what pulls them together as a team eventually. Why they care for each other and why. Why they do what they do at the end. So I. I really liked it. Evan, did you have a. Do you have a scene. A character.

The.

Evan Garcia: 00:51:23

The character that I. That to going in, I was like, I don't like this guy. But was. Oh, shoot.

Evan Garcia: 00:51:31

Shoot.

Evan Garcia: 00:51:33

An agent.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:51:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah. U.S. agent. Yep.

Evan Garcia: 00:51:38

That guy rubbed me the wrong way in the soldier. I was just like, any more screen time with this guy?

Yeah, but the way Yelena and the ghost were, like, ragging on them and stuff like that on, like that helmet scene. Like, but do you like the helmet? Because that's all that matters. You goes, yeah, it's cool. The way they kind of. They take like that. Like that.

Like the. The jockeyness and be like, bro, stop putting up that front. Like, do you like the helmet or not? It just. They really turned that character on me.

But the one that I related to the most was. Was. Was. Was. Was Bob. Like, there were some Points where like I know.

I know I might get a little emotional, but I know waking up in the medical suit and being like, oh shit, what the fuck did I do? I know that feeling. And like, and, and, and. But the way they fleshed it out and they made it a happy story and they didn't lean on. Yes.

This is dark thing. But they said you can always pull yourself out of it with the people around you and stuff like that.

Evan Garcia: 00:52:53

So no thanks, dude. Yeah, thanks for sharing that. That's. I think that's important.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:52:57

I love that.

Evan Garcia: 00:52:57

I think that's really important. I agree.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:53:00

Yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:53:01

Nice.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:53:01

Oh and well, I'll just say so my only beef with the postgres.

Evan Garcia: 00:53:04

Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay. It's like. So I will say yeah. In credit scenes in the MCU as of late have been really like.

I like I'm not going to the movie to see the end credit scene. But it. There's an expectation there and you don't have to like be world breaking every single time. But at least like come on, let's.

Let's put some effort into it. So sinners even has like a great one. Like fantastic great ones. Yeah. If you leave, you're done. And thank you. Because if with your what Snooze.

If you hadn't told me to stay for the other ones, I probably would have left. But I was telling people around me they were leaving. I was like, no, my friend tells me you need to stay. And they were sitting that. But I.

The in credit scene, I. I enjoyed it because that it does lead into the next phase and we have some stuff going. We have some big movies this summer.

This lead into it's going to answer some questions. The whole Avengers with a Z. And it lets you know that 14 months later, Cap, Captain America. Sam has put together a new Avengers team.

And I'm curious, what are. Who are.

Evan Garcia: 00:54:07

Does that look like.

Evan Garcia: 00:54:08

Yeah. And now we have two different Avengers. New Avengers teams. What does that look like? And so that anticipation of who's team. What's going on.

Maybe do it. But Kevin, I can't wait to hear your beef. I will probably agree with you.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:54:20

Okay, let's hear it.

Evan Garcia: 00:54:21

My.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:54:22

My only beef there is that. So Bucky gets off the phone with Sam and he's like, oh, it didn't go well. He said, you know. And I'm like, all right, come on. They like that.

There are already so many. This movie is still a year away, but there are already so moving parts to it. That makes me really worried.

So I like, I Mean, because they set up up Sam's Avengers team in the last cat movie. But for me, like, I does, would he really be bothered by. Okay, you know, the Thunderbolts are now an Avengers team too. And you know, you have to.

And yes, they're government sanctioned, but they only did that because they, you know, they. They end up winning with Valentina. They have her under their control by the end. So they're not really, like, they are technically government.

Government sanctioned, but they're. They have the upper hand here. And so. And knowing how much they emphasized, like, I mean, yes, they're still frenemies, but in a way.

And they have that kind of relationship, but they are also, like, talking to one of the soldier. And the last cat movie solidified the brotherhood between Bucky and Sam and how they trust each other and how they're friends.

And yeah, they'll still make jokes with each other and everything, but yeah, to go and. And file a lawsuit, like, come on.

Evan Garcia: 00:55:36

Your friends, they would talk. They would talk before they'd have a law.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:55:40

They would talk it out.

Evan Garcia: 00:55:41

They would go to therapy about it.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:55:42

They would go to therapy about it. And like, and Sam is just not that immature to where he would, like, start a big beef here.

And that's my thing is there are already so many moving parts and Doomsday isn't even out yet. And I don't really need a team like two Avengers teams fighting just for plot purposes when to me, it doesn't matter.

Evan Garcia: 00:56:03

So we need.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:56:04

Yeah, I just, like, there's already plan. They've got X Men, You've got Fantastic Four. You've already got enough.

I'm like, I don't need two Avengers teams fighting each other for not really an apparent reason. So that's my only beef with it. I love seeing the fanatic worship, but.

Evan Garcia: 00:56:22

Yeah, but that's my way that they. That they made them the new Avengers was brilliant. I didn't see that coming at all. That switch. That switch and that, that the.

The classic trope of all the Marvel movies and their. Their press conferences, you know, it's like, oh, man, they. They did it again.

Evan Garcia: 00:56:46

Yeah. And.

And I like, I mean, and I was wondering, you know, in terms of this Fantastic Four movie and the trailers and the Pete timepiece that it is and where it falls in the MCU and those kinds of things. I think this incred scene kind of. Oh, is from a interdimensional ship that's coming from another reality.

Makes me go into this next fantastic form maybe going, okay, they're Their own separate universe. At some point, they're going to get over to the MCU616, or whatever you.

Evan Garcia: 00:57:12

Want to call it, is going to swallow theirs.

Evan Garcia: 00:57:14

Yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:57:17

Come over here.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:57:17

Yeah, I don't see any other way of that movie ending. I think it's definitely going to, like, with Galactic, with. Yep. Yeah.

Evan Garcia: 00:57:25

Cool stuff. Cool stuff. Yeah, we. I think we all give it two thumbs up.

We ranked the movie, you know, a solid eight for me, and I will definitely see this one again. Not only because I have sound issues, and I want to see that one scene again with full sound, but I. I will definitely want to see this again.

Evan Garcia: 00:57:42

Oh, and the Red Guardian man, he was.

Evan Garcia: 00:57:46

Come on.

Evan Garcia: 00:57:47

David harbor was. David harbor all the way, like, stole.

Evan Garcia: 00:57:52

The show on the. On the sidewalk. And she's like, that is good. That is very good.

Evan Garcia: 00:57:58

Yes.

Evan Garcia: 00:57:58

Well, I was like.

Evan Garcia: 00:57:59

I was saying the same thing. I was like, dave, that was good.

Evan Garcia: 00:58:02

You did good. You cool. All right.

Evan Garcia: 00:58:06

That he looked at her when she was having her. Her little breakdown was such a fatherly look. Like, I know you're going through right now, but you're okay. You're okay.

Evan Garcia: 00:58:18

And he.

Evan Garcia: 00:58:18

And he was able to make her feel that way. And I was like, that was beautiful. Beautiful moment.

I'm like, but I'm watching a Marvel movie with a bunch of annoying Gen Z kids next to me, like, what is happening? They were so rowdy. It was very annoying. People were screaming at them like, shut up. Shut up. Because at that moment where the girl.

Where the girl gets zapped away, they laughed and laughed and laughed.

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:58:51

Bro, you gotta go to Alamo.

Evan Garcia: 00:58:54

I know, I know. We still gotta deal. Still gotta deal with people. People are gonna. People.

All right, so with all the things where there's lightning around and thunderbolts, what are we recommending other things we've talked about today? What's the one thing they're like, all right, I got. I got three hours tonight to. To do something.

What are you going to recommend to them, Evan, what do you think?

Evan Garcia: 00:59:15

I'm gonna go with the Cad Bane portion of Tales of the Underworld. That was a sleeper hit for me. That was like. That was some storytelling that I didn't see coming. Like, good job, Dave Filoni. I was just like, whoa.

Evan Garcia: 00:59:32

Which I have not watched yet. So now, like, I'm excited. Go do that tonight. Okay. Okay. Nice. Kevin, how about you?

Kevin Schaeffer: 00:59:39

I've got a movie recommendation to continue on the Florence Pew hype, and this is one I don't think many people have seen, but probably not as Many as people have seen as like Midsummer. It's a movie called Fighting with My Family from, I think 20, 19, 19. Yes, it's an excellent movie. Yeah, it was. That's right. Yeah, it's.

And actually, I think this actually works as a companion to Thunderbolts because it's also about this, like, kind of dysfunctional family. They're a wrestling family.

Evan Garcia: 01:00:08

And Nick Frost plays the dad. Right.

Kevin Schaeffer: 01:00:10

Nick Frost is the dad and Game of Thrones is the mom. It's an amazing movie written directed by Stephen Merchant, man. And she. Yeah, I, I won't spoil too much, but just go watch that movie.

That was one of her earlier roles.

Evan Garcia: 01:00:25

That's a good one.

Kevin Schaeffer: 01:00:26

Excellent movie.

Evan Garcia: 01:00:26

I like, I like how you went from, you know, White White Widow to Florence Pugh to this movie recommendation. I see what you did there. I see what you did.

Evan Garcia: 01:00:35

That's great.

Evan Garcia: 01:00:35

I'm. I'm gonna recommend. I, I love Andor. I, I can't wait to see how, how they, you know, wrap this thing up and where they go along the journey.

I'm there for the whole journey. And I love Thunderbolts, but I, I, after seeing Sinners, man, I can't recommend that enough.

So if you, if you like rated, rated R horror movies, but also drama and well written and good music and the blues as all the elements, man, it's. It's a fantastic movie. Go, go see it. Go, go see it. You. I will. We will definitely do an episode fully on that one at some point.

Kevin Schaeffer: 01:01:08

Count me in.

Evan Garcia: 01:01:09

Cool.

Evan Garcia: 01:01:09

Let's go.

Evan Garcia: 01:01:10

All right, Kevin Land. All right, this plan.

Kevin Schaeffer: 01:01:14

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Evan Garcia: 01:01:37

Yes, Sam.